Discussion:
migrate 2003 to 2007
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Ricky
2007-10-17 20:02:36 UTC
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Hi

I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this type
of operations so I really need your help.

1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep in
a storage

2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?

3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks or
with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?

[]'s
Ricyk
Mark Arnold [MVP]
2007-10-17 21:04:04 UTC
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Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this type
of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep in
a storage
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks or
with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
[]'s
Ricyk
You really need to engage a consultant to work this through with you.
There are several roles that are introduced with Exchange 2007 and the
consultant will look at your current systems and design the right
number and size of servers.
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
2007-10-17 21:12:13 UTC
Permalink
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep
in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File Witness
Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
Ricky
2007-10-17 21:59:01 UTC
Permalink
The doubts are below.
Thanks
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep
in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File Witness
Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Doubt: CCR for the backend (passiv mode?) and for the rest for the frontend
(active mode?)
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Doubt: Quad Core but with each processor? Can you advice me a IBM or HP
server to this solution, please?
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Doubt: Isn't raid 10 a little expensive for the beneficts? The disks must
have 400GB space to keep all the mailboxes according to the quotas we are
going to atribute
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
2007-10-17 22:02:15 UTC
Permalink
Here is where the other advice comes in, hire a consultant :) I was speaking
in general. Though I do prefer HP over IBM or Dell, but they will all work.

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
The doubts are below.
Thanks
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be
keep in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File
Witness Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Doubt: CCR for the backend (passiv mode?) and for the rest for the
frontend (active mode?)
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Doubt: Quad Core but with each processor? Can you advice me a IBM or HP
server to this solution, please?
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Doubt: Isn't raid 10 a little expensive for the beneficts? The disks must
have 400GB space to keep all the mailboxes according to the quotas we are
going to atribute
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
Ricky
2007-10-17 22:11:09 UTC
Permalink
I agree with you about HP. Can't you advice me what HP server would be
perfect to this job?

Thanks
Ricky
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Here is where the other advice comes in, hire a consultant :) I was
speaking in general. Though I do prefer HP over IBM or Dell, but they will
all work.
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
The doubts are below.
Thanks
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003
64 bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing
this type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I
implement with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are
going to be keep in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File
Witness Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Doubt: CCR for the backend (passiv mode?) and for the rest for the
frontend (active mode?)
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Doubt: Quad Core but with each processor? Can you advice me a IBM or HP
server to this solution, please?
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3
disks or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is
faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Doubt: Isn't raid 10 a little expensive for the beneficts? The disks must
have 400GB space to keep all the mailboxes according to the quotas we are
going to atribute
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
2007-10-17 22:14:12 UTC
Permalink
Not really, work with HP or a consultant to fine tune it .

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
I agree with you about HP. Can't you advice me what HP server would be
perfect to this job?
Thanks
Ricky
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Here is where the other advice comes in, hire a consultant :) I was
speaking in general. Though I do prefer HP over IBM or Dell, but they
will all work.
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
The doubts are below.
Thanks
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003
64 bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing
this type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I
implement with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are
going to be keep in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File
Witness Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Doubt: CCR for the backend (passiv mode?) and for the rest for the
frontend (active mode?)
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Doubt: Quad Core but with each processor? Can you advice me a IBM or HP
server to this solution, please?
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3
disks or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read
is faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Doubt: Isn't raid 10 a little expensive for the beneficts? The disks
must have 400GB space to keep all the mailboxes according to the quotas
we are going to atribute
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
Ed Crowley [MVP]
2007-10-18 01:04:00 UTC
Permalink
As an HP employee, I recommend that you consider the new C-class blade
enclosures because of their power, cooling and cabling savings. But you'd
ultimately have to decide whether you'd be able to load it enough to benefit
from it.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
Post by Ricky
I agree with you about HP. Can't you advice me what HP server would be
perfect to this job?
Thanks
Ricky
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Here is where the other advice comes in, hire a consultant :) I was
speaking in general. Though I do prefer HP over IBM or Dell, but they
will all work.
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
The doubts are below.
Thanks
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Yeah, what Mark said, but here are some General answers below...
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003
64 bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing
this type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I
implement with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are
going to be keep in a storage
CCR for the backend, 2 Hub Transport Servers (one holding the File
Witness Share), 2 CAS with NLB/HLB, 2 Edge Transport Servers.
Doubt: CCR for the backend (passiv mode?) and for the rest for the
frontend (active mode?)
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
Quad Core fast ones. 8-16 GB per server, you can never have too much RAM!
Doubt: Quad Core but with each processor? Can you advice me a IBM or HP
server to this solution, please?
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3
disks or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read
is faster?
RAID 10 :) How big will mailboxes be? 2 GB x 2000 users adds up, plus
backing up to disk...
Doubt: Isn't raid 10 a little expensive for the beneficts? The disks
must have 400GB space to keep all the mailboxes according to the quotas
we are going to atribute
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Post by Ricky
[]'s
Ricyk
John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]
2007-10-17 21:16:25 UTC
Permalink
Agreed, contact a Microsoft Certified Partner to assist you. Ask them how
many Exchange 2007 installs/migrations they have completed and get
references. You did not say what hardware vendor you are using but they can
be of some assistance. I prefer Dell Computer and their Server Account
Managers can provide some insight to load sizing.
--
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2008
Microsoft Certified Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep
in a storage
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
[]'s
Ricyk
Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
2007-10-17 21:27:11 UTC
Permalink
Huge HP fan here ;)

Cheers,

Rodney R. Fournier

MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]
Agreed, contact a Microsoft Certified Partner to assist you. Ask them how
many Exchange 2007 installs/migrations they have completed and get
references. You did not say what hardware vendor you are using but they
can be of some assistance. I prefer Dell Computer and their Server
Account Managers can provide some insight to load sizing.
--
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2008
Microsoft Certified Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep
in a storage
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
[]'s
Ricyk
Ricky
2007-10-17 22:27:04 UTC
Permalink
Ok!
Thanks anyway.
Post by Rodney R. Fournier [MVP]
Huge HP fan here ;)
Cheers,
Rodney R. Fournier
MVP - Windows Server - Clustering
http://www.nw-america.com - Clustering Website
http://msmvps.com/clustering - Blog
http://www.clusterhelp.com - Cluster Training
ClusterHelp.com is a Microsoft Certified Gold Partner
Post by John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]
Agreed, contact a Microsoft Certified Partner to assist you. Ask them
how many Exchange 2007 installs/migrations they have completed and get
references. You did not say what hardware vendor you are using but they
can be of some assistance. I prefer Dell Computer and their Server
Account Managers can provide some insight to load sizing.
--
John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2008
Microsoft Certified Partner
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be
keep in a storage
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
[]'s
Ricyk
Ed Crowley [MVP]
2007-10-18 01:05:01 UTC
Permalink
If you want consider doing it yourself, you could start by reading Paul
Robichaux's Exchange 2007 book.
--
Ed Crowley
MVP - Exchange
"Protecting the world from PSTs and brick backups!"
Post by Ricky
Hi
I want to migrate from Windows / Exchange 2003 32bits to Windows 2003 64
bits / Exchange 2007 64 bits but I don't have any experience doing this
type of operations so I really need your help.
1) What type of arquitecture (load balance? ; other?) should I implement
with an universe of 2000 users where their mailboxes are going to be keep
in a storage
2) What processor and memory to buy (server)?
3) Raid 5 is the best to this case? If so should it be with just 3 disks
or with more disks (ie 6 with less capacity) so the write/read is faster?
[]'s
Ricyk
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